This page contains research notes by T. J. White, a participant of the
Brewer Family Tree DNA Project for members of the White family who fall into the Brewer/Lanier haplotype.
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Kit 177950, T.J. (Terry) White, tjwhite1963 @ gmail.com
See T.J. White Research Notes on the White Lineage below
T.J. matches Jordan, Cook, and the other Brewers in our Brewer/ Lanier group exactly at 37 markers.
1) Jacob White Jr. (MRCA ) b. 1772 NC, d. ca. 1855 Fulton Co GA. m. circa 1798, probably Franklin Co GA Sarah [ ? ] b. 1778 SC d. ca. 1855 Fulton Co GA
2) William Wilson White b. 22 Dec 1800 Franklin Co GA, d. 17 Nov 1895 Fulton Co GA. m. 6 Dec 1801 Franklin Co GA Elizabeth "Betsy" Willis b. 16 Dec 1801 SC, d. 3 Apr 1883 Fulton Co GA
3) Francis Marion White b. 1 Jan 1827 DeKalb Co GA, d. 25 Dec 1925 Fulton Co GA. m. 14 Dec 1852 DeKalb Co GA Elizabeth Frances Marchman b. 24 Feb 1835 Newton Co GA, d. 9 Aug 1911 Fulton Co GA
4) William Cornelius Green "Cap" White b. 27 May 1858 Fulton Co GA, d. 31 Aug 1942 Atlanta, Fulton Co GA. m. 25 Dec 1877 Atlanta, Fulton Co GA Mary Jane "Jennie" Gravitt b. 26 Feb 1857 Atlanta, Fulton Co GA, d. 8 Apr 1938, Atlanta, Fulton Co GA
5) Francis Marion "Frank" White b. 2 Aug 1886 Atlanta, Fulton Co GA, d. 11 May 1950, Atlanta, Fulton Co GA. m. 24 Aug 1902 Decatur, DeKalb Co GA Bessie May Davis b. 9 May 1888, Chipley, Harris Co GA, d. 22 Apr 1973, Riverdale, Clayton Co GA
6) Homer Spence White Sr. b. 9 Jul 1915 Atlanta, Fulton Co GA, d. 21 Mar 1943, Atlanta, Fulton Co GA. m. as her 1st husband, 15 Feb 1935 Martha Darthula Kelly, b. 24 Oct 1915 Haleyville, Winston Co AL, d. 13 Oct 2008, Winterville, Clarke Co GA
7) James Francis "Frank" White, (living).
8) Terrence James "Terry" White
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Kit 177962, Roger White, rog.wht @ gmail.com
Roger matches Jordan, Cook, and the other Brewers in our Brewer/ Lanier group exactly at 37 markers.
1) Wright White b. 7 Jun 1807 Franklin Co GA, d. 26 Jul 1893 Rock Mills, Randolph Co AL. m. 7 Apr 1839, prob DeKalb Co GA Margaret "Peggy" Crow b. 30 Mar 1819 GA, d. 28 Jan 1901 Rock Mills, Randolph Co AL
2) William Henry White b. 9 Aug 1853 Randolph Co AL, d. 17 Jun 1907, Texas, Heard Co GA. m. 18 Feb 1873 Troup Co GA Josephine Elizabeth Patterson b. May 1850 GA, d. 14 Sep 1927 Texas, Heard Co GA
3) Homer William White Sr. b. 1878 Troup Co GA, d. 30 Sep 1965 Franklin, Heard Co GA. m. ca. 1900 GA Emeline "Emma" Witcher b. 1880 Fayette Co GA, d. Aug 1924 Palmetto, Campbell Co GA
4) Hulette Henry White born ca. 1908 GA, died around 1985 Ga?
5) Roger Alan White
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WHITE-BREWER RESEARCH NOTES
from T. J. White
Dec 10, 2010
The following data and research notes are provided in the hopes that future generations of researchers
may be able to pick up where I left off, and hopefully complete this work of identifying our earliest ancestors. T.J.W.
The "White-Brewer Family" of DeKalb and Fulton Counties, Georgia
Our Earliest Proven Ancestor (EPA)
Our family of Whites are descended from a man named Jacob "Jake" White, who lived in Chatham County, North Carolina,
Franklin County, Georgia (from about 1799 to about 1825), and DeKalb/Fulton Counties, Georgia (from about 1830 through
1860).
The census evidence on his date of birth is unfortunately conflicting, the 1850 census saying he was "78" years old
(thus born ca. 1772), while the 1860 census says he was "104" years old (thus born ca. 1756). Those were clearly not
two separate men with the same name, since the censuses in Georgia uniformly show that from 1830 to 1860, there was
only one adult man named "Jacob White" in the entire state! So therefore, one of those stated ages was clearly wrong.
I am now inclined to accept the older age from the 1860 census, even though it is more of a logical stretch to do so,
for one important reason: two separate branches of Jacob White's descendants, who lost contact with each other for
over 150 years, maintained solid traditions that Jacob White lived to be "around 105 years old" (according to one
branch), and that he lived to be "around 111 years old" (according to the other branch).
Both censuses agree, however, in naming North Carolina as his birthplace. Regardless of his actual age at the time of
his death, though, it is now proven that Jacob White came from Chatham County, North Carolina. The evidence for this
will be discussed below.
"Brewers," not "Whites"
Our surname hasn't always been "White", however, and this is why I now call our family the "White-Brewers".
Recent yDNA tests have conclusively proven that this Jacob White somehow came from a family surnamed "Brewer." His
closest living male line relatives--besides his descendants named "White"--are males known or believed to be descended
from a man named George Brewer and his wife Sarah Lanier of Virginia. Jacob White's genetic Brewer relatives (for the
most part) are now referred to as the "Lanier-Brewers," because of their presumed descent from that couple.
Three known, proven male descendants of this Jacob White submitted 67-marker yDNA test kits to Family Tree DNA (FTDNA),
a respected genetic testing company, during the years 2009-2010. They were:
Terrence James "Terry" White (Kit #177950),
Roger Alan White (Kit #177962), and
Montford Bailey "Monty" White (Kit # 188597),
All three are known and proven 4th cousins to each other (twice removed, in Terry's case). Terry descends from William
Wilson White (1800-1895), Roger descends from Wright White (1807-1893), and Monty descends from Samuel Isaiah White
(1810-1893), all known sons of this Jacob White. A photograph of Samuel Isaiah White is attached above. It may be
safely assumed that his father Jacob "Jake" White probably resembled him to a large degree. This is the oldest-known
photograph of any member of our family. It is therefore of great importance. Thanks to Monty White and to our cousin
Ed Hutchison, both of Mississippi, for providing me with copies of this photograph.
Not only did Roger's and Terry's results exactly match each other, thus establishing and proving the 'haplotype'
(genetic blueprint or 'signature') of their ancestor Jacob White, but this Jacob White's 'haplotype' also exactly
matches (at 37 out of 67 markers) the 'modal haplotype' of the so-called "Lanier-Brewer" group of descendants of
that above-mentioned George and Sarah Lanier Brewer.
This conclusively proves, without any doubt, that our particular branch of 'Whites' was originally surnamed "Brewer".
(That term 'modal haplotype' means the most commonly-tested genetic values for individual alleles, or genes tested,
within any one particular group of related individuals--in our case, the "Lanier Brewers".)
Also attached above is a Excel Spreadsheet chart made by myself (Terry) showing our genetic values in comparison to
those of our other Brewer relatives (and others, like ourselves, who no longer carry the Brewer surname). It is hoped
that this chart will be of interest. (Some of you will already have this chart.)
So how did we become "Whites," instead of "Brewers"?
My recent speculation as to when the surname changed from "Brewer" to "White" now centers on this very man, Jacob
White, who was born in Chatham County, North Carolina sometime (apparently) in the year 1756, according to the 1860
census of Fulton County, Georgia.
The tax records of Franklin County, Georgia, where he lived (as mentioned above) from circa 1799 to circa 1829, do
indeed show two men named "Jacob White," one notated as "Sr." and one as "Jr." And yet, as also mentioned above, by
the time our ancestor Jacob White moved to DeKalb County (later to become Fulton County) Georgia, around the year
1830, there was only one man by that name in the entire state. Clearly, therefore, one of those men--Jacob White Sr.
or Jacob White Jr.--either died or moved out of state after the year 1813 (the last year in which both men show up
in the records together).
Our ancestor Jacob "Jake" White could have been either man. As yet, we have no evidence one way or the other to say
whether our ancestor was either "Jacob Sr." or "Jacob Jr."
The census evidence:
There were only three men named "Jacob White" in the 1790 census of North Carolina, one in Perquimans Co., one in
Edgecombe Co., and one in Chatham Co.
The Jacob White of Perquimans County is known to have come from a large Quaker family. He apparently stayed put in that
place, and did not evidently move anywhere else, as he continued to be documented there a number of years after"our"
Jacob White is known to have moved to Georgia.
The Jacob White of Chatham County, however, is now proven to have been one of the men by that name who later resided in
Franklin County, Georgia, and we may therefore completely discount both the Jacob White of Perquimans County, and the
Jacob White of Edgecombe County.
We are able to say this by virtue of two major pieces of evidence:
One: There was a deposition in the year 1811 in Franklin County, Georgia, by "Jacob White Sr.," in which he stated the
names of three of his neighbours in the year 1788. Two of those neighbours (one the son-in-law of the other) are now
known and proven to have resided in Chatham County before and during the American Revolution. This therefore proves
that Jacob White Sr. (whether he was our ancestor Jacob "Jake" White, or merely his father) came from that county and
state before moving to Franklin County, Georgia. I refer to this important deposition by Jacob White Sr. as the "1811
Deposition". From other Franklin County records of that time period, we see that Jacob White Sr.'s wife was named "Mary".
(I had wanted to be able to also attach scans of that "1811 Deposition", but cannot do so, due to limits of file size
and number when attaching documents. In light of this fact, a facsimile transcript of that "1811 Deposition" will be
provided below as an appendix. I do indeed have JPEG scans of the original "1811 Deposition," if anyone is interested. )
Two: the second piece of evidence proving that the Jacob White [Sr.] of Franklin County, Georgia was one and the same
man as the Jacob White of Chatham County, North Carolina, is a deed from the year 1789 in Chatham County, North
Carolina, in which "Jacob White and Mary his wife" sold their property [evidently just prior to moving to Georgia].
This in itself would, of course, prove absolutely nothing, but taken in conjunction with the evidence laid out in the
previous paragraph, it does indeed prove to be solid evidence. This deed is also attached above, along with the earlier
1782 deed by which Jacob White [Sr.] obtained that property from the State of North Carolina.
Who was the father of Jacob "Jake" White? Two theories:
Also in Chatham County around the time of the Revolution (and in neighboring Moore County), was a large group of
closely-related men named "Brewer," now known from yDNA evidence to be closely-related to our ancestor Jacob White
and his descendants. Among these Brewers was a man named "Lanier Brewer Jr." who was born in 1746, and who is reputed
(according to family tradition) to have fathered no less than 30 sons and 3 daughters by two wives and an Indian
concubine of the 'Tucky-hoe' (Tuckahoe) tribe (now known as 'Lumbee').
I must stress that the following is at present only an unproven theory, but I am presently believing that it is possible
that, if our ancestor Jacob "Jake" White (whom we now know was genetically a "Brewer") was in fact "Jacob White Sr.",
and if he was actuallly born in 1772 as the 1850 census says (instead of 1756 as the 1860 census says), then he could
have been yet another son of that Lanier Brewer Jr., possibly by that Indian concubine. This would account for why
Jacob would have wanted to change his surname, and move to another state (most of Lanier Brewer's known descendants
instead moved westward to Tennessee). It is entirely possible that Jacob "Jake" White could have been adopted, at a
very young age, by a man in North Carolina named "Jacob White," and that this is how "Jacob White Jr." came to bear
that particular name and surname, instead of his birth surname of "Brewer". Again, I must stress that this is only
an hypothesis. Jacob "Jake" White may well have actually been born in 1756, and not in 1772.
An alternate theory includes the notion that our ancestor Jacob "Jake" White was actually Jacob White Jr., who was
indeed a genetic son of Jacob White Sr. (who was born in 1756, according to the 1860 census of Fulton County, Georgia),
and that it was this Jacob White Sr. who was in fact fathered by a man named "Brewer". Following this theory, a good
candidate for the father of Jacob White Sr. is a man named Howell Brewer Sr.
Howell Brewer Sr. was a man who is known to have "gotten around" (so to speak). Even one of the known sons of that
Howell Brewer--a son who carried the Brewer surname (he was named Isaac)--is on record as stating that he wasn't sure
who his father was!
Information about Howell Brewer Sr. from the internet:
Here follows some information about that Howell Brewer, copied (with minor editing) from the Brewer Family Genealogy
website (http://www.brewer-family.org/genealogy/brewer/family.php?fatherid=1958&motherid=2754):
Hoel [sic] Brewer, (son of George), b. ca. 1723, Surry Co., VA, m. lst. Rebecca Willis d. 1756, m. 2nd. Marion May,
ca. 1775, dau. of John May, d. in Western, Tn., Howell Brewer was of age to witness a deed in Brunswick Co. in 1743,
and he was co-executor of his father's will with his step-mother Alice Brewer. The names of their children are derived
from various family histories and documents. Proofs are not found for most.
Known Children:
i. Howell Brewer b. 1740s, in Randolph Co, NC, by 1785, and in the 1790 Census with three males over 16 and eight females.
ii. Ambrose b. ca 1753 Brunswick Co., VA, d. after 1855 in Hancock, TN.[See NC Chapter for continuation.]
iii. Ann Brewer b. ca. 1753/4, moved to TN with husband Joseph Moon, ca. 1810 moved to Ohio where she died.
iv. James Brewer b. ca. 1755
v. Orville Brewer b. ca. 1757
vi. Polly Brewer b. ca. 1759
vii. Isaac Brewer b. 1764
viii. William Brewer
ix. John Brewer
x. Henry Brewer
xi. Simon Brewer, b. 1775
A statement in the estate settlement of Howell's father George Brewer showed thatHowell Brewer Sr. had left the state
leaving Rebecca Brewer behind, likely because there were young children. Eventually she apparently joined him for "said
Howell Brewer and Rebecca Brewer though solemnly called came not but defaulted." [Ct. Or. Bk. 3, 1745-49, p. 191.]
In 1747 there was a suit of trespass, assault, and battery against Howell Brewer by Charles Collier. Though he admitted
the offense, the case was dropped later that year. At the Sept. 4 Court there was an attachment against him for a debt
and nothing was collected as "he was said to be privately removed and absconded so that process could not be served on
him for the 41 shillings and four pence." Evidently he had left, leaving Rebecca to face the consequences. The records
show that various chattels of the George Brewer estate were scattered throughout the Brewer family with the exception
of Alice and her children. In the end, Nicholas, Henry and Rebecca had to return the chattels and tools. In 1749,
Howell Brewer received a grant of 200 acres in Bladen Co., NC, and 200 acres on the northeast side of Deep River in
1754. He was in the tax list of Moore Co., NC, in 1755 along with Henry Brewer. While in Moore Co, NC, he sold 200
acres of the above land on both sides of Deep River to Zachariah Green on Aug. 29, 1758 [Book C. p. 138]. Both were
signed with his mark without his wife's signature or mark.
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Howell's conduct didn't seem to improve with maturing age.
Some court records are not clear as to whether it was Howell Sr. or Jr. being referred to. In Orange County, North
Carolina, in the year 1752, we find the case of John Williams vs. Howell Brewer, Traverse. Another case shows William
Spruce vs. Howell Brewer for debt. He was residing on the south side of the Haw R iver in the June 1759 Court. In the
February Court of 1765 he was sued by Nathaniel Edwards, and in the May Court of that year Charles Saxon was appointed
Overseer of Road in the place of Howell Brewer. [Orange Co. Court Records, 1752-66, pp 48, 531].
Howell is found on the list of Orange County residents who protested the high recording fees in a petition to the
Governor & Council in 1768. This was during the troubles caused by the infamous "Regulators" of North and South
Carolina. Howell and 'Nicklees' Brewer are listed in Colonial and State Records on NC, Vol. VIl, pp 733-5-6. He was
in Capt. Joab Brooks's Co. of Chatham Co. Militia in 1772. [Appendices of Chatham Co., 1771-91, by Hadley, Horton
and Stroud.] He appears in Wilkes County records at its formation in 1778.
A list of signatures requesting a central location for Randolph County public buildings gave the names of Howell Brewer,
Sr., Howell Brewer, Jr., Isaac Brewer, and Ruben Brewer. Howell made his mark while the others signed their names.
[Randolph Co. Courthouse Petitions, 1785-1788 by Mac Whatley, Jr. in that county's Genealogical Journal.]
Howell's wife Rebecca Brewer is not found in any of the NC records, but it is assumed that she and the children joined
him ca. 1746. In his Rev. War Pension Application, Howell, Jr.'s son Isaac swore that he served in that war with his
father Howell, and uncles John Brewer and Bill Brewer.
Mae Stevenson in a 1957 summary of her research stated that Howell Brewer lived to be 93 years old and died in Owsley
County, Kentucky, and his children included James Brewer, Orville Brewer, Ambrose Brewer, Polly Brewer (m. a Pope),
and Howell P. Brewer. Isaac Brewer filed an application for a Rev. War Pension. The photocopy is difficult to read,
but fifteen children are mentioned, and states that his father may have been Howell Brewer. He was b. in 1764 in
what was later Wilkes Co., NC. At age five his family moved to Bedford Co., VA, and then to Chatham Co., NC. He lived
there until about 24 years old, then moved to Blount Co., then to McMinn Co., TN, then to Talladega Co., AL. He was
living in Orange Co., NC, when called into service. His brother Simon was b. in 1775 and was living in Coosa Co., AL,
in 1853. His widow was Sarah.
Some conclusions and speculation:
Now, why do I believe that this Howell Brewer Sr. could have been the father of Jacob White Sr.? One, the unequivocal
genetic evidence which shows that three separate male descendants of Jacob White share almost identical yDNA with
descendants of no less than three of Howell Brewer's brothers, in addition to one known male descendant of Howell
himself. This genetic matching is in fact wholly identical, at 37 markers tested. This is highly significant, and
even alone indicates an extremely close relationship to these Brewers.
The second important consideration is that Jacob White Sr. is now solidly proven to have originated in Chatham County,
North Carolina--precisely the area where Howell Brewer and his siblings were living at the time!
Let's put it this way: if Jacob White Sr. (or Jr., for that matter) was not a son of Howell Brewer Sr., then he was
almost certainly a nephew--a son of one of Howell's brothers--or a close cousin. Close genetic matching, as obtains
in our case, cannot indicate otherwise.
If Jacob White Sr. had originated from a different area of North Carolina (or from another state entirely), then I
would very quickly retract such a claim as this. But this is not the case.
The third important consideration is Howell Brewer himself, and the dissolute, wayward life he apparently led--precisely
the sort of scoundrel we would naturally expect to father a child, and then run off to leave the child to his own
fortunes, to be adopted by another family .
The fourth and final important consideration in examining this issue, is the statement that Howell Brewer's first wife
Rebecca Willis Brewer had supposedly died in 1756--precisely the same year in which Jacob "Jake" White was (apparently)
born.
Imagine this possible scenario: Howell Brewer's wife Rebecca dies in 1756, either in childbirth, or when the babe was
still an infant. Howell being the irresponsible, reprehensible man that he apparently was, the family took the infant
(presumably named "Jacob") and placed him with an adoptive family (presumably surnamed "White"). The rest is, as they
say, 'history'.
This scenario, while (again) only an hypothesis, makes enormous sense. Clearly, something like this probably occurred,
in order for a person who was genetically a Brewer to end up with a different surname!
More "Whites" to consider, and yet another scenario:
My older, now-deceased relatives always told me that our Whites had been "Scots-Irish" in origin (thank God I at least
had the foresight to ask them while they were still alive). We now know that, genetically-speaking, however, they were
Brewers, not "Whites". But we don't know when or how the name got changed from Brewer to White.
Well, to back up a little: remember how I told you that our earliest known ancestor Jacob "Jake" White came from
Chatham County, NC? Well, living in Chatham County at that time was, in fact, a large Scots-Irish family of Whites,
who were descendants of a man now called "Old Moses" White, who was born in the 1600s. He was a son of a Rev. Adam
White, a dissident Scots minister who was banished to Ulster by the English government. Some information about him
and his descendants exists on the internet. Among the descendants of this "Old Moses" White was a man named Carolus
(Charles) White Sr., who was born in 1727, and who died in Chatham County, North Carolina in 1807.
Notwithstanding that it is hazardous, in genealogical research, to speculate that persons might be related due solely
to geographical proximity, I have nonetheless come to at least suspect that our ancestor Jacob "Jake" White might
have been related to that Carolus White Sr. in some way. Perhaps Jacob was his grandson, through a daughter. If Jacob
White's mother had been a White, and if Jacob was fathered out of wedlock by a man named Brewer, as now seems likely,
then Jacob may well have been given his mother's surname--not his birth father's. This was in fact the law in Colonial
America for children born out of wedlock, and proven, confirmed instances of it do exist--children being forced by the
legal system to take on their mother's surname, solely because their biological father was not married to their mother.
We clearly need to be examining the bastardy records of Colonial North Carolina's counties, for the period of the 1750s
(those that still exist, that is).
There's still more: that same family of Whites in Chatham County, NC--the family of that man named Carolus White--is
also the family of a man who migrated to DeKalb County, Georgia, and who probably was acquainted with our ancestors.
His name was John White. He lived from 1792 to 1871. "White's Mill Road" in DeKalb County is named after him.
But believe it or not, there's more still: our White ancestors worshipped for many years at Atlanta's oldest Baptist
church, now known as Utoy Primitive Baptist Church. Also a member of that church in the 1840s and 1850s was a man
named James V. (possibly Vandiver) White, born in 1804. I always suspected he was related also, but never could
connect him up. His father, it turns out, was a man named Joseph White, and he was apparently also connected to
that same Scots-Irish family which goes back to "Old Moses" White. Now, I stress that I have not yet been able to
prove that part, but I am strongly convinced that they were from the same family as "Old Moses" White and the John
White of DeKalb County, Georgia.
So--here's the point: both in Georgia, and in Chatham County, NC, our family of Whites (actually "Brewer-Whites")
were dancing all around members of that other family of Whites! So was there a connection? Perhaps. But exactly
how, only God knows at this point.
T.J. (Terry) White
December 2010
Appendix A
Transcript of the "1811 Deposition" by Jacob White Sr. of Franklin County, Georgia:
Transcribed by T.J. (Terry) White on July 1st, 2010.
Spelling and punctuation are rendered here exactly as
in the original. Uncertain readings are indicated by
boldface italics.
Georgia } Personally before me appeared
Franklin County } Jacob White Senr. & after being
Xduly Sworn Deposeth &
Saith on oath on a matter of Controversy
between James Brooks of Said County and
William Stanton of South Carolina in which
Said White Sayeth on his Oath that Some
time in the year 1788 the month he doth
not recollect but this deponent Sayeth
that he was at the house of Thomas Stanton
Sometime in the date above & he said to me
to come next morning that he had it in
temptation to Get Old Simond Thomason -
__________ __[page break]______________________
to give him a deed of Gift to a certain negro Woman
Dinah by name & her increase from that time forth
also told your deponent how he meant to Contrive
it he said that he would draw an Article of
Agreement to live with him the Ensuing year
and that he would draw them nearly alike
so that the Old man would not know the ods
between the two we both went down next
morning your deponent and Thomas Stanton
to see Simond Thomason the old man was of
Sound mind Thomas Stanton gave him the
articles to read and asked him if it would do
the answer was yes with that Stanton took the
paper out of his hand but that Instant your
deponent further Sayeth that the dogs fell on
Some hogs in the yard your Father meaning
Thomas Stanton Run out to relieve the hogs
puts the agreement in his Bosom Coming
back Puls out the Deed of Gift comes in gives
it to mr. Thomason and mr. Thomason he
thinking it was the agreement Sets his name
to it & your deponent further Sayeth on Oath
that he was a Subscribing witneſs to Said Deed
of Gift & that he verily believes that Said Simond
Thomason believed that it to be the articles
of agreement which he aſsigned the Same
Sworn to & Subscribed before me this 14th day
of December 1811---
the above Interlined before aſsigned --
Test Jacob White Senr.
Thomas Hollingsworth, JP
Recorded the 14th December 1811
Here follows an edited version, with modern spelling, punctuation, and commentary,
of that same 1811 deposition. This should make it much easier to read and understand:
Georgia }
Franklin County}
Personally appeared before me Jacob White, Sr., and after being duly sworn, deposeth
and saith on oath, on a matter of controversy between James Brooks of said county, and
William Stanton of South Carolina, in [the] which said White saith on his oath that
Sometime in the year 1788 (the month he doth not recollect), but this deponent saith that
he was at the house of Thomas Stanton, sometime on the date above-written, and that the
said Thomas Stanton “said to me to come [to his house the] next morning, that he had it
in temptation to get old Simond Thomason to give him a Deed of Gift to a certain Negro
woman, Dinah by name (and her increase), from that time forth.”
He (Stanton) also told your deponent how he meant to contrive it:
“ He said that he would draw an Article of Agreement to live with him [Thomason]
the Ensuing year, and that he would draw them [the two deeds] nearly alike, so that
the old man [Thomason] would not know the odds between the two.”
“ We both went down [the] next morning—your deponent and Thomas Stanton—
to see Simond Thomason. The old man was of sound mind. Thomas Stanton gave him
the Articles [of Agreement] to read, and asked him if it would do. The answer was yes.
With that, Stanton took the paper out of his [Thomason’s] hand, but [in] that [very]
instant (your deponent further saith),” … “the dogs fell on some hogs in the yard.”
“ Your father—meaning Thomas Stanton—runs out to relieve the hogs, puts the agreement
in his bosom, [and,] coming back, pulls out the Deed of Gift [instead,] comes in [to the
house and] gives it [the agreement] to Mr. Thomason, and Mr. Thomason—he thinking it
was the Agreement [to Cohabitate]—sets his name to it.”
“ And your deponent further saith on oath that he was a subscribing witness to said Deed of
Gift, and that he verily believes that said Simond Thomason believed … it to be the Articles
of Agreement which he [had] [signed].”
The same sworn to and subscribed before me, this 14th day of December, 1811.
(The above was fully read and reviewed before being signed.)
(Signed) Jacob White Sr.
Attest: Thomas Hollingsworth, J.P.
[NOTE: it is humorous to notice that Jacob White Sr., having been a witness to a swindle in 1788, whereby an old man
was cheated out of a female slave (because he wasn’t careful to read what he was signing his name to), was very careful
to read what he himself was signing as an old man!]
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Sep 21, 2010
Thought the below might be of some interest (see forwarded email). From this, it is obvious that I do indeed share
the DYS 395S1a==14 mutation (modal==15) which Roger White also has (myself being an exact 67-marker match to him).
[To refresh the memories of some of those to whom this is copied, and who may not be clear on this--we now know from genetic
testing of myself and our cousin Roger White that our "White" family was originally surnamed "Brewer"--probably not much more
than 200 years ago. We are almost exact genetic matches to several men named "Brewer," but do not match anyone surnamed "White"
(except for Roger). The evidence for this is, to say the least, so overwhelming as to silence all questions to the contrary.
I am therefore now calling our particular family the "White-Brewers," as a convenient way of showing who we have historically
been ("Whites") at the same time that we show who we genetically are.]
I am tentatively identifying this mutation as the "White" mutation, defining the "Lanier-Brewer" branch which adopted the
"White" surname, as (so far) this mutation, with only one exception, occurs only in that one branch. That exception is
Henry Frank Brewer--and he may well be only a case of "convergence," or coincidence, as far as that one mutation is concerned.
Save for that one single mutation, Roger and myself otherwise exactly match the modal (mean, or most common) values for the
"Lanier-Brewer" group. (Ironically, the only individual so far tested who exactly matches the modal haplotype for the
"Lanier-Brewer" group is Randy Wayne Jordan, who does not bear the Brewer surname.)
We are now also informed that a third member of the "White" clan of the "Lanier-Brewers" has just recently submitted his
67-marker test kit to FTDNA. This individual is Montford Bailey "Monty" White, a proven descendant of Samuel Isaiah White
(1810-1893), who was a known brother of my ancestor William Wilson White (1800-1895) and of Roger White's ancestor Wright
White (1807-1893). All three men were known sons of Jacob White Jr. (c.1772 Chatham Co. NC--c.1861 GA). Monty White can
thus be confidently predicted to be another exact 67-marker match to both Roger White and myself. (If not exact, then it
should be very, very close.)
I also was informed that the results of my "Kittler Test" have also come back--revealing that the "Lanier-Brewers" are now
tested and proven to be "low/high" on DYS 385a/b (i.e., 14-15). This is additional evidence that we are indeed haplogroup
L22 NuN-14 ("I1d").
In case you might not already know, famed geneticist Ken Nordtvedt, "the" expert on the "I" haplogroup, believes it is most
likely that our particular haplogroup originated in the Jutland peninsula (modern-day Denmark), probably--as he says--very
close to where the original homeland of the Anglo-Saxon tribes would have been (our distant genetic relatives). This area
is now known as "Schleswig-Holstein," and is on the border separating modern-day Denmark from Germany.
That said, however, we are clearly from a different branch of the "I" group than the actual Anglo-Saxons themselves, having
more in common with those Germanic peoples who stayed in Scandinavia and became the ancestors of the Vikings (the Danes,
Norwegians, and Swedes, etc.).
I am currently believing that it is most likely that our remote ancestors ended up in England as part of the Viking invasions
which created what was historically known as the "Danelaw"--that region of Southeastern England which was ruled (for about
sixty years, around 1005--1057 C.E.) by the kings of Denmark, particularly the famous King Canute (Knut), about whom this
Old English rhyme was once penned:
Murie sungen þe munechis binnen Ely,
Þa Cnut ching rew þer by.
(Merry sang the monks in Ely [cathedral],
When Canute the king rowed by.)
King Canute, it will be remembered, was the English king (and also of Denmark) who thought he was so powerful that he once
famously waded into the surf along the North Sea coast of England, and issued a royal decree for the tide to cease coming in.
Canute stood there for a few moments, and then his feet then got royally wet, proving that even kings cannot overrule Natural laws.
If this scenario hypothesized by Nordtvedt holds true, then we may well be very (VERY) distant kinsmen of members of the
Harris family here in the United States, as they too are branches of the "I" haplogroup, and are known from the historical
record to also go back to the same area of Jutland/Denmark. (See, for example, discussions to this effect on the "Crispin
Cousins" weblist.) What I will need to do is examine their genetic evidence, to see how distant or how close they are to us.
I'm updating the latest revision of my DYS chart for the "Lanier-Brewer" group, reflecting the addition of my latest DYS
results, and also the addition of our newest participant Monty B. White (whose results have yet to come back). I will, of
course, fill in his results as we obtain them. You can obtain a copy by writing to me. Many thanks to Monty for joining us!
"A 67 marker match has been found between you and another person in the Family Tree DNA database!
You and the other person(s) have matched in 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66 or 67 loci. This means that there is a 99% likelihood
you share a common ancestor in a genealogical time frame."
